Oral History Tour Stop 3: Helen Godfrey-Smith and Martha Morris of Shreveport FCU

March 4th, 2014

In the preparation for the trip, one person I’d been in extensive contact with was the CEO of Shreveport FCU, Helen Godfrey Smith. One of the founding members of the African American Credit Union Coalition, Ms. Smith took an interest in African American credit union history several years ago, and was the driving force behind the exhibit at America’s Credit Union Museum. Given that the community of people in the U.S. who are doing work on the history of the credit union movement can be counted on one hand, I was excited to have the opportunity to meet Ms. Smith in person, and rolled out from Jackson towards Shreveport for a late afternoon meeting.

When I arrived, the location stood in stark contrast to that of my last interview; instead of half a shipping container, the Shreveport FCU headquarters occupies a substantial two-story building in a commercial part of town. After checking in at the front desk, I was ushered up stairs and to Ms. Smith’s office, where she and VP Martha Morris awaited me. After briefly discussing my project and previous interviews, I set up my camera and began my interview with Ms. Smith, which covered a great deal of ground, including, among other topics, her background, maintaining a sense of community in the face of growth and consolidation, segregation in the early movement, the African American Credit Union Coalition, and the challenges of the regulatory structure.

Once we concluded, Ms. Smith encouraged Ms. Morris to fill me in a bit about the process by which her credit union had merged with Shreveport, and I did a short interview with her, during which we also discussed how she first got involved with credit unions when she ran one as a volunteer while working at a unionized plywood plant, and her sense of the challenges facing the contemporary movement.

Oral History Tour Stop 2: Clarence Hall, Jr. of the Issaquana County FCU

March 3rd, 2014

For the second interview of my African American elder oral history tour, I headed west from the Jackson home of my gracious CouchSurfing hosts into rural Mississippi. Upon turning north off I-20 near Vicksburg, I found myself on a road that tracing the contours of the enormous earthen levees that shield the area’s expansive, seemingly endless cotton fields from the excesses of the Mississippi river. After about an hour in which the major road hazard consisted of flock of birds lazily congregating on the road, I arrived in Mayersville.

Consisting of a few hundred houses clustered literally in the shadow of the levee, the town is the modest seat of one of the poorest and least densely populated counties east of the Mississippi. The largest building in town is the County correctional facility, and as I turned into town, the signs quickly made it apparent that much of the newer housing stock had been been built with federal money. I pulled into the parking lot of the University of Mississippi Agricultural Extension building and gave a ring to Sherida, the credit union book-keeper who’d been my contact in setting up the interview. It turned out that she worked right across the street, and I followed her car a few blocks to the Issaquana County Federal Credit Union.

Housed in a small trailer about half the size of a shipping container that barely contains two desks, the credit union has been in operation since 1969, when its current 89 year old President, Clarence Hall, Jr. helped establish the institution. Sherida introduced me to Clarence then headed out. It being an unseasonably cold day for Mississippi (in the mid-20s), he had an ancient electric space heater running, and so we huddled our chairs around it, chatted for a few minutes about my project, and then began the interview:

CU Oral History: Milton J. Carr, Jr. of the Arabi Sugar Workers FCU

Yesterday marked the start of my African American credit union oral history tour, and I was fortunate to kick off the project by meeting with Milton J. Carr, Jr., the former president of the Arabi Sugar Workers Federal Credit Union. In addition to being a retired sugar refinery worker, union officer, and credit union volunteer, Mr. Carr is quite the history buff who has been building a second career over the last decade as an historical tour guide. As a result, over the course of our discussion at his dining room table, he provided a fascinating historical sketch of the African American experience in the city and his native Lower Ninth Ward which offered invaluable context for better understanding the dynamics and story of his credit union. We covered a lot of ground in our conversation; check it out!

Discussing the Upcoming Credit Union Oral History Tour on Cooperative Vermont

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Coming African American Oral History Tour!

Watch out, dear reader, this blog is about to get quite active! Last week I finished up at my day-job and, to celebrate, I will be embarking on a journey through the South to conduct oral history interviews with African American credit union elders. My trip will start in New Orleans at the beginning of March, and will then proceed through Mississippi, Alabama, Atlanta, North Carolina, Richmond, Va., and Washington D.C. I've already obtained some good leads for interviewees, but if anyone has suggestions as to people to at to my itinerary, please get in touch!

My plan is to take video of the interviews and, after some light editing, post the videos to my Youtube channel. I will also try to write a short summary of my experience at each of my stops which, along with embedded video, will be posted on this site.

Finally, while I'm going to be doing everything I can to minimize expenses, this project will cost some money, so if you are interested in the topic and could kick in a few dollars towards train fare, etc., you can visit the crowd-funding page here and Bitcoin donations can be sent here: 16uLVGBZk45UEmTKYhdqWaviE5zJKA12R4

Onward!

Oral History: Roy Bergengren, Jr.

While recently mucking about on-line, I stumbled upon the transcript of an oral history interview of Roy Bergengren's son, Roy Bergengren, Jr., which had been conducted in 1975. At the time, the younger Bergengren was the recently retired president of a junior college in Florida, and the bulk of the interview focuses on that experience. However, the biographical background information that he lays out in the first few pages provides some intriguing tidbits for credit union historians by offering a quick glimpse at what it was like to be Bergengren's child and outlining his own brief involvement in the organized credit union movement. I've excerpted the passage in which he discusses the latter; if you want to check out the full interview, you can read it on the University of Florida's website.

P: What did you do after [graduating from Dartmouth in 1936].

B: After that, I went to work for my father, who was at that time, head of the Credit Union National Association in Madison Wisconsin. And the National Organization of Credit Unions was just starting, and they had a very small staff, and they needed somebody to edit their little monthly magazine [ed. note: the Credit Union Bridge]. So I started editing a monthly magazine for $15 a week. I kept that for about three years, and I decided that it wasn't the best thing in the world to work for your father, despite my respect and love for him, so I went to work on a newspaper in Madison, Wisconsin... (Page 2)

Input for Oral History Template

In order to maximize the usefulness of the Credit Union History oral history project's interviews, I'm currently working on developing an "interview template" which will help ensure that certain types of information are collected in all of the conversations. The idea is not to only ask the questions on the template, but, rather, to provide a "skeleton" that might serve as a jumping-off point for the discussion of a great deal of interesting material. I plan on continuing to develop and tweak it over the next month or two before beginning the first round of interviews, and so I figured that I'd post some initial ideas for commentary and suggestions. If you can think of any questions that you'd like to ask of elder credit union volunteers, feel free to leave them as comments on this post, or send me an email. A few of the questions that I've been considering are below; critiques and suggestions are extremely welcome!

• When were you born and where did you grow up?
• What did your parents/caregivers do? Where were they from?
• What schools have you attended and what kinds of work have you done?
• What was your earliest encounter with a credit union? Why did you join one initially? What was its common bond?
• What was your early understanding of what a credit union was? How did you learn about it?
• [For volunteers or staff members] How and why did you take on an active role in your credit union?
• What role(s) have you played in your credit union? How have the responsibilities of those roles changed?
• How have credit unions changed in the time you've been involved with them? Why do you think those changes have occurred? What do you think the effects have been?
• What do you believe to be the essential characteristics of a credit union? What makes it different from a bank?

Oral History: M. Yvonne Gratton of the Chittenden County College Employees Credit Union

M. Yvonne Gratton was the founding Treasurer of the Chittenden County College Employees Credit Union (which later, via mergers, has become the Members Advantage Credit Union), which she ran from 1965 until 1969. This interview was filmed by Matt Cropp on March 3, 2010 as part of a graduate school project on the CCCECU.